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tonight in deficit reduction efforts. it's a path that is sure to lead to many obstacles from the other side. chief white house correspondent ed henry has the new developments in a time sensitive story. >> in a dramatic move today, president obama seemed to be trying to split the budget talks to two pieces. suggesting he and lawmakers come up with spending cuts next year after they avoid the fiscal cliff, by extending middle class tax cuts and raising taxes on the rich. >> it would give us more time than next year to work together. on a comprehensive plan to bring down the deficit, streamline our tax system. do in a balanced way. >> the president apparent shift away from spending and tax altogether now in a big deal could increase the chances of a market rattling fall off the cliff. since the republicans want spending cuts included. >> republicans are willing to put revenue on the table. but it's time for the president and democrats to get serious about the spending problem that our country has. >> the president's move came one day after two other big developments, suggesting democrats
, that is .5 percent of the deficit. we cannot get there, get the deficit down without significant cuts in spending. >>neil: the election has consequences and you could argue that a key premise of the president's re-election was i will raise taxes on the rich and he is likely entitled to that, he will likely see that but it is all the other things they are leveraging with democrats do not touch entitlements and putting everything on table it remind me of george bush sr. he agreed to reverse the pledge oh ride -- "read my lips, no new taxes." but the democrats never offered correspondenting spend cuts. we know what happened to him. what happens to those who agree do in the republican party? >>guest: the republican party has to stand for economic growth and it has to stand for the principle that keeping tax rates low and reforming the tax system is the way to grow the economy. i disagree slightly with rand paul. i am in favor of closing loopholes. i hate them. i call them termites in the tax system but we should use that money to credit a first-class world class tax system that stops expo
dollar deficits every year and throw a tantrum if someone suggests that maybe the taxpayers shouldn't keep subsidizing ever last program washington ever dreamed up. they are reckless and ideological approach threatens our very future. and anyone who is serious about solving the problems we face should ignore all of that starting with the president. megyn: meantime some of the president's supporters unleashed and ad blitz targeting key lawmakers reportedly spending close to $300,000 on an ad buy that talks about increasing taxes but leaving spending alone. here is part of that. >> how do we move our country forward and reduce the deficit, by creating jobs and growing our economy not by cutting programs that families rely on most. megyn: join me now is stu varney, who is host of varney & company. and chris stirewalt. you have all the unions unleashing and ad blitz to target the home states of key lawmakers trying to build pressure on them to not agree to any entitlement spending cuts and they are going directly to the american people to sell that message. what do you make of it? >> i
to pay a little bit more to reduce the deficit. bill: what happens if they don't see a deal? 90% of americans will see a tax hike in 2013. and families that make between $40,000 and $65,000 will have to pay an extra $2,000 to washington, d.c. in taxes. martha: concerns over america's fiscal cliff have sent the markets lower in premarket trading. there is a look at where the dow is poised to open this morning. with the dow, the s & p and the nasdaq all trading lower. speaking of that, a new round of violent protests break out in egypt as police fired teargas into the crowds. here are some of those scenes. >> unbelievable. more than 100,000 people flooded into downtown cairo. this time they are protesting the current president martha maccallum and his power grab. they are disillusioned with what he has brought to their country. then you have this happening. police firing teargas. gypt's highest courts refusing to work in protest of morsi's actions. steve harrigan is streaming live from cairo. the protests looked like the unrest we saw in that same square back in 2009 and the arab
trillion deficit and $17 trillion in debt like putting a band-aid on a grenade wound. >> wasn't the choice very clear in the election, republicans said no tax increases and they got a president who said, well have them and they lost seats in the senate. >>guest: they did but they kept the house of representatives and the americans voted if a government with two parties that control different areas of the government. if there is a mandate it is that americans want both sides to get together to compromise, to work out a solution, and i don't think it was by any means endorsement of raising taxes for the sake of raising taxes. that is worst case scenario for republicans. there is another way, and it is closing loopholes and deductions. >> do all republicans know it? you speak to senator chambliss who says i am doing what is best for the country not living with the no tax hike pledge? >>guest: absolutely, senator chambliss, i cannot speak if him personally but most republicans would say there is a better way to fix the deficit and decrease our national debt and that is what negotiation is abou
negotiated deficit reduction changes. it includes expiration of the bush era tax cuts that would effect everyone. expiration of the tax cut around for years can be called a tax increase. the nonpartisan budget office would bring in $1 trillion in ten years. on tap, 1.2 trillion in spending cuts for ten years. $100 billion in first year. half to defense programs. half to nondefense. cbo says going off the cliff would lead to a recession next year. we have fox team coverage tonight. ed henry is trying to read tea leaves on a day of mixed signals from all sides but we begin with mike emanuel on the possibility that g.o.p. lawmakers may put their oath of office above a promise to antitax increase organizer. good evening. >> good evening. the republican sources say they are offering a balanced approach of significant spending cuts and some revenue without boosting tax rates. >> we have been responsible as we remain firm on this point. no tax increases now for promised spending cuts that won't materialize later. the american people have seen that game before. they won't be fooled again. >> th
approach to reducing the nation's deficit. let's bring in our panel. mary katharine ham editor-at-large of hot and fox news contributor. peter mirijanian former advisor to the clinton-gore and gore-lieberman campaigns. when the president arrives at the white house to speak, he will have people behind him, ordinary americans who reached out to the white house and want their $2,000 middle class tax cut preserved. republicans are saying this is essentially a campaign stunt, a campaign appearance kind of event of the he won the election. he should get on the business of governing. what do you say? >> well, one quick observation, jon. i think what you're seeing, what i think is interesting the first social media presidency. this administration using technology and using social media to advance their agenda. but look, all presidents do this. george w. bush after his re-election famously said he has now the political capital he intend to use. so going to the public and going sort of over the head of congress is something democratic and republican presidents always do what they
down deficit. the campaign promise is to cut the deficit in half. he said he would do it by focusing at the center of his proposal, going to be entitlement reform. we have seen none of that. more than four years. >> bret: interesting op-ed by bill archer and chris cox in "wall street journal" saying that the real outlay is $86 trillion of unfunded liabilities. obligations when you include all of the federal government, what it owes. that is obviously dwarfs the $16 trillion in debt we hold. >> which raises the question why are republicans allowing the entire debate to be about taxes? and about the war among republicans over holding the line on the norquist pledge or not. when what obama is proposing on raising the rates on the 2% is a triviality. it will reduce the deficit from $11.01 trillion to $1. $1.02 trillion. eight cents on the dollar. nothing. lunch money. it's rounding error. yet that is all the debate we are hearing. obama understands this. he is trying to, he is not trying to fix our fiscal issues and problems. he's trying to destroy the republicans. by insisting that ther
we should have a balanced approach to deficit reduction that doesn't hurt the economy or hurt middle class families. glad to see if you have been reading the pains more and more republicans in congress are agreeing with this idea we should have a balanced approach. >>shepard: he referenced some in the g.o.p. who signal they could be willing to play bull. the republican leadership still is insisting they will not consider tax hikes. >> republicans are willing to put revenue on the table the it is time for the president and democrats to get serious on the spending problem our country has. >>shepard: president obama continues the p.r. blitz. later today he is scheduled to meet with big business leaders to discuss the proposed fix to the fiscal cliff. ed henry is live with us at the white house. what seem it is to be lost in this is the tax cuts going to expire. that's it. if they want to extend them on some, they can. but he will not allow it on people who make more. what part of this is confusing? >>reporter: a lot of other pieces that are confusing because no one wants to come to the
to the, you know, budget deficits and medicare, small enough it's somewhat of a side show. the idea that we're picking on themmen they're not getting the right deal, get out to the real world. >> steve. >> don't blame them, federal workers, this isn't their fault. yes, they're going to have give more. and in favor of union representation and union representation say hey, leave us alone, it's good for them, but overall, everybody's going to have to give, everybody. >> brenda: gary b. >> look, if it's the federal workers have it so bad, try to get a job in the federal sector, it's almost impossible these days, that's how bad it is. >> brenda: but, jonas, there have been layoffs from the federal sectors as well. >> they haven't had as hard as states. states had to get their budgets going tighter before the federal government. the federal government now is only starting to address the workers so i think that the state workers are taking it harder than the federal workers and now the federal workers have to join the misery of the state workers in tightening budgets. >> brenda: tough time
debtor deficit spending, or where spending cuts of any type might come or how we are going to address the larger issue: we all know that tax hikes on the rich ain't going to get it down. progressive groups reportedly held a private meeting with senior obama administration white house officials. according to the "washington post" the groups were told not to worry about any entitlement reforms or big budget cuts. the so-called safety net programs according to them are not going to be touched and the progressive groups walked away feeling very happy. the report say the white house feels it does not need to compromise, period and is willing to let the big tax hike happen on everybody. the big tax hike is what everybody will face not just the rich or the middle class. they think they'll be in a better position to negotiate with the g.o.p. after that happens. chris stirewalt joins me, host of power play on >> i was a little frightened, i thought something i, really bad was happening instead of the standard badness. megyn: that is terrifying. [laughter] back down to business, t
california owes an astounding $167 billion. and it's running an annual deficit of about 9 billion. money they that can never never be paid back. what is california getting for all of that? high school graduation rate 37 out of 50 states. per capita income, $44,500. but, there is a 10.1% unemployment rate. crime number one. there are more prisoners in california than any other state. take a look at texas. high school ranks 44th. slightly above california. per capita income about 40,000 bucks per year. but there is relatively low unemployment 6.6%. convicts in state prisoners ranked number two behind california. so you can see there is not a big difference in the economic and social stats but there is a big difference in mind set. california has many more social welfare programs. golden state also has many more business regulations. texas, you could pretty much set up any bigness you want. you can also ride a motorcycle without a helmet. talk on the cell phone without a car and on and on. texans basically saying hey, government, get out of our lives. californians on the other hand generall
is an integral part of deficit reduction. from my side of the table, bring entitlement reform into the conversation. social security, set aside, doesn't add to the deficit. when it comes to medicare and medicaid, protect the integrity of the program, but give it solvency for more and more years. >> reporter: a source with engine of knowledge -- with knowledge of the negotiation says there is no date set in stone for the next meeting among the principle negotiate othe timing will depend on the progress of staff member, in the next few days. but we should not be surprised if they get together, sthiem week. shannon. >> shannon: we wish them much luck. thank you. our worst-case scenario, there isn't a deal. the former economics director it'll peter tracy, tells what did you say to expect if that happens and what will happen if it doesn't. let's talk positive, first. who do you think, if something comes together, will be the key players. >> we need to see president obama move off the position of entitlements and propose real reductions, tangible, real, so there is something to bala
are going to have to look at entitle reform. entitlement. reform is the only way to get the debt and deficit under control. we've got to take it on. >> chris: let me ask you, you say you would consider more revenue but with loopholes -- >> there's so many of them. >> chris: you voted against the bush tax cuts a decade ago because you said too many of the benefits go to the wealthy, not the middle class. once they were passed you have changed your view and said i'm not going to oppose them. it you could get a deal for entitlement reform and take a chunk out of the national debt, why is the 35% top tax rate which you oppose sacred? >> every economist i respect says if you raise tax rates at this time -- the president says that a couple of years ago -- it harms the economy. we're trying to help the economy. unless i'm convinced raising tax rates will be beneficial, obviously i think there's reason and grounds for my position. i also believe that we can and must get an agreement, otherwise i think first of all the markets are going to start reacting. >> chris: we'll talk about that in the next s
this deficit. in fact, during the 2012 fiscal year the federal government cost $9.7 billion to run each and every day, but the additional revenue from letting the bush tax cuts expire only amounts to around $82 billion a year, meaning the government would be funded for a whopping 8.5 days if in fact the president wins this fight. sadly the real reason we've reached this point is because our elected representatives simply have no idea how to stop spending your money. as a result, the door has been kicked wide open for democrats to use this as an opportunity to scare you into thinking more government, well, that's got to be the answer. we've heard all of this before. now during both the obamacare and the stimulus debates, fear mongering was this president's go-to strategy into getting his way. this is what he predicted would happen unless his so-called recovery plan was passed. >> the situation we face could not be more serious. we've inherited an economic crisis as deep and dire as any since the great depression. economists across the spectrum have warned if they don't act immediately mi
the bush tax cuts for over $250,000 expire, $80 billion. deficit of $1 trillion a year. you are only 18% of the way. you are still missing 82% of the pie here. that is the number. >> dana: two minutes left, can i ask you one other thing. transparency. some on right try to push for negotiations to be in the public and broadcast on cspan. that is a terrible idea. >> brian: it is terrible idea. the only time they dealt with the sleeves up and working deals out, grant you, eric, you are right. the grand compromise. you talk about stimulus and obamacare and the auto bail-out they did it on their own. president was not engaged. he passed it along. i don't care what harry reid says. medicare and medicaid and social security have to be restructured, not fine tuned. obamacare has to be in play. >> eric: you don't want to see it on c-span? i do. >> andrea: you worked on the hill, i did. we worked in washington. the chances of it really happening on c-span would happen in the men's room and the hallways. call each other after the camera left the room. someone brought this idea to me and it's reall
. >> dana: all right. >> eric: obama have to advertise he promised to -- [ laughter ] -- cut the deficit in half? >> dana: where will it end? >> kimberly: we want an apology. >> dana: super pac ad with apology. >> kimberly: deliberately dezeed the american people. >> bob: that is not true. >> dana: we'll ponder that. coming up, 5 a 50 million reasons you might not want to win tonight's powerball jackpot. brian has all of those next on "the five." ♪ ♪ >>> i'm bret baier in washington. the big story here today is a new develop in the president obama's evident to get off the fiscal cliff. tonight on "special report," the president may be trying to divide budget negotiations in two pieces, insisting on tax increases for high earners this year with a promise to cut spending next year. some critics call it wimpy from popaye strategy, gladly paying you tuesday for a hamburger today. house speaker john boehner insists the republicans are willing to work with the mt. offering the tax revenues if significant spending cuts are part of the deal. is social security on table? should it be? we hear
have to tackle the deficit. it's not only what we spend today, it's what with we owe tomorrow. sessions ha said we know what happened in the stimulus of 2009, $800 million was basically wasted. the president himself admitted the failure. there wasn't enough shovel-ready jobs, and not only that, it did not prevent national unemployment from being below 8%. in fact, it hasn't been below 8% for most of his term as president. so sessions was a shot over the bow to senators and house members, don't be fooling around with the stimulus. we've got to fix spending, and we also have to tackle revenue. but it's not going to be done with you now throwing a huge stimulus that we can't afford. ainsley: jeff sessions says spending will go up. do you agree with that? >> no. and as much as i love mr. smith dose to washington, i don't think one senator should be able to buck the will of the american people. two weeks ago we had an election, and the voters spoke loud and clear. they prioritize job creation over deficit reduction. now, the reality is the two don't have to be mutually exclusive, and i think
is an integral part of deficit reduction. yes, from my side of the table bring entitlement reform into the conversation. social security, set aside. doesn't add to the deficit but when it comes to medicare and medicaid, protect the integrity of the program but give it solvency for more and more years. martha: alabama republican jeff sessions is the ranking member on the senate budget committee. senator sessions good morning. good to have you here today. >> martha, thank you. martha: a lot of talk this morning after these sunday shows and watching both sides talk about this fiscal cliff about who seems to be moving and in what direction. what are you hearing, what are you hearing from lindsey graham who says, quote he is willing to break that pledge on taxes under certain circumstances? what are they really saying? >> i'm not sure what they're saying. there's a lot of this talk going on. i don't know who is speaking for the republican party. the house of representatives where you have a substantial republican majority but the truth is that this country does not need to go through t
the typical washington show game and take a few bills. if we want to cut the budget deficit we have to look at everything that's been passed and make decisions against each of those. if obama-care is the most important policy considered its survives. if there are other things being considered it doesn't survive. that's the only way to approach cliff that's running out very quickly. rick: if there is a deal spending cuts have to be put on the table and obama-care cost a lot of money. >> that's not true. it cuts the deficit in a 10-year period and even more so over 20 years. john boehner said in his own op-ed that he tried two different ways to get rid of obama-care, going to the supreme court and in the election. they tried 33 times to repeal obama-care in the congress and failed all 33 times. the bottom line is now we have obama-care. it is the law of the lands. we need to take the off the table and focus on the bush tax cuts which american voters decided they want to keep for people under $250,000 and they want to get rid of for people making more than $250,000. rick: obama-care lowers the
and we'll have another trillion dollar deficit according to cbo moving into next year and we can't afford anymore like that. if we take what obama would be willing to support which is increase in the age of, again recipients and other type of reforms like that, then we have a legitimate negotiation as we move into it. but when you have liberal members of the democratic party stepping forward and saying before the process begins they will not accept any type of entitlement reform, it makes it untenable process from the beginning. jon: is it no entitlement reform, simon, or is it perhaps entitlement reform when it comes to medicare? i haven't heard anybody talk about reforming social security on democratic side? >> that is good question and i think, look i think we're in the early stages, chris, of this whole debate. eric cantor went on morning joe said and won't raise taxes on anybody under any circumstance which would you argue is stopping negotiations. both sides are laying out positions right now. there are negotiations going on. clearly the fiscal cliff is scaring everybody into action
a dent in the deficit or the national debt. the government is a ravenous beast. jon: that is the point, that monica makes. even if you take the tax rates back for the richest americans to where president obama says today really should be, you're really not going to take care of the national debt in a significant way. >> no, you're not. but, you know, these republicans that talk about this today, most of them voted in the senate and the house for the medicare prescription drug plan under or george bush. that exploded the deficit tremendously. both of them voted for two wars, even if you think they were necessary, with no offsetting revenue to fund those wars. when you have spending like that that these republicans backed ten years ago, never had a problem with, and all of a sudden now they're saying we've got principles, you know, where were these principles ten years ago? >> first of all, fiscal conservatives like me were screaming at president bush and others who went down -- >> but where was the primary for those people? >> but remember, remember, the deficit that president bush left
. >> well --. megyn: where does the money go? does it all go to the deficit, or to the debt? >> no. megyn: because we, a lot of americans think, all right, i want to help my fellow citizens and i don't like this national debt but you know who i don't want to help? i don't want to have jeff neely to have another trip to the hot tub and drink his red wine. >> forgotten about him. megyn: the feds shown propensity for misspending the people's money. >> well, think about this. we're talking about, we have a government that runs a trillion dollar deficit every year. that borrows more than three cents of every dollar it spends. here we're talking about a deal that would be 1.6 trillion over 10 years. talking about $160 billion a year. it is just, just littlest scratch in the surface when you talk about long-term debt and different sits. this is being made out to be a big deal but this money will get you can ised pretty fast. megyn: look at the fight we have over just that. can you imagine the fight we would have if we really tried to tackle the $16 trillion debt? chris, great to see you. >> good
service announced a 15.9 billion in losses, the agency is trying to recoup the deficit. starting inep december 12th. they will follow ebay and amazon and walmart and offer same day delivery. the metro post ames to boost profits by taking advantage of holiday shoppers who get their hands on last-packages and the agency is teaming up with 8-10 retailers to offer it at a $10 flat rate fee. we know that customers will have to place their orders by two o'clock p.m. the latest and items will be delivered between four and eight the same day. they hope to generate 10-50 million. and it expected 20 percent jump in package volume which is more than the rivals. they will look to expand it in other major like new york, boston and chicago et cetera. the outlook is bleak even if it makes maxed profit. that is not enough to plug the budget hole and not taking boo - into the account to run the program. >> we are all pulling for the postal service. time right now. 17 after the hour. it was an iconic image of sandy. new york city crane twisted in half and damaging buildings and now business owners are
the deficits are coming from. that's what should be talked about more than taxing people who are working their rear ends off to do better for themselves. >> i've got to telldon't like wt is brought into a discussion about people making $250,000. >> two different worlds. >> he's a very good business man. >> an amazing businessman, he doesn't care about taxes. >> he's not the only businessman saying it. >> it's not just the fiscal cliff coming on january 1st, more of the president's health care law is starting to kick in. how much more will you be paying? we're going to find out. hmm, it says here that cheerios helps lower cholesterol as part of a heart healthy diet. that's true. ...but you still have to go to the gym. ♪ the one and only, cheerios bigger than we think ... sometimelike the flu.fer from with aches, fever and chills- the flu's a really big deal. so why treat it like it's a little cold? there's something that works differently than over-the-counter remedies. prescription tamiflu attacks the flu virus at its source. so don't wait. call your doctor right away. tamiflu is
something about the $16 trillion deficit, i think the bottom is going fall out of the dollar, totally. >> greta: what has been the -- when you asked to be paid in gold, the answer was what? >> they got, quoted opinions from a progressive pragmatic judge says the constitution says states will pay their debts in gold and silver doesn't mean that. they said that hey, they will wire my payment, my payroll, by wages, they'll wire where ever i want them to. i intend to wire where they'll send me gold and silver dollars for pay. >> greta: so that is taken care of? it's got an extra step or they can write you a check and you can go buy gold if you wantedded. you can get your gold, you can get your gold, right? >> yes. i'll end up getting gold and silver coins, yes. >> greta: anyone else agreeing with you? joining suit? anyone else in the legislature? >> there are a few others agreeing with me, but none have come out and been willing to put their, expose themselves as much. >> greta: what do you attribute the decline to? do you blame it on washington? is there anything in particular you identi
, there will be about 3,000 people that will have paralysis or significant permanent neurological deficits. it is a real problem. it is a real problem particularly in texas. >>trace: we look to the pictures of mosquitoes which we associate with the west nile and we associate mosquitoes with summer, are we off the hook or is this year round? >>guest: well, it depends where you are. there is a tendency to thing you are off the hook because the previous years is the warm weather because the warmer the weather the more the virus reproduces in the mosquito so it reproduces and you are bitten you will get the virus but because it is a disease of cycles we are not off the hook. >>trace: you talk about a cycle of the disease what do we know about future epidemics? >>guest: there will be future epidemics. in north dakota, for instance, which is the state that has the most cases of west nile virus reported per capita only 15 percent of the population has become infected so there is a long way to go. while you can get the virus and become infected and become immune if you have not been subjected to the disease con
to the united states. that is why we've had trillions of dollars in trade deficits with china. managers of the trade policy with china, democrats and republicans, i think are guilty of real political malpractice on a large scale. >> greta: what is the chinese viewpoint of what they're doing vis-a-vis north korea? >> almost any country, chinese goes back than our memory. because of the great war, many of the invasions of china have come by bypassing the great wall, along north korea. and... also, the japanese intend to conquer asiana started in korea. so china, korea is an extremely sensitive point. what i think the chinese would like best is an outcome would be a nonnuclear, peaceful, north korea. they would not want a unified korea because it would seem that the high-tech korea and yellow ribbon with modern weapons would resurrect his storeal cal threats in their minds. also for them, the korean war as the image they thought as a symbolic significance. they took on the united states when they were very weak and came out from their point of view, achieving their effectiveness. >> greta:
of the americans believe they need more taxes and lowest tax necessary 80 years and we have a high deficit. they can afford to pay more. >> the fact is, many republicans are saying okay. we want to talk about taxes. let's also take a look at entitlements and speppeding cuts and so far, the white house hasn't put forward anything on paper that they are willing to discuss. >> that is one of the hardcore issues here. there is an idea coming from the democrats we are going to raise taxs and off set it by raising taxings. we have a staggering economy and unemployment and we'll hit 50 million americans on food stamps and no end for that number to constantly grow even as unemployment rates went down. we are adding to people on food stamps which doesn't make sense. how do youriform these things? and at the same time not just say we'll raise taxs and continue to spend money we don't have. look at the white house. they are borrowing 47 cents of every dollar spent in the budget this year. it is it not going to work and they will have to give and we'll go after the rich and take their mon yeby the way
clinton, the secretary of state, to get up there and by this time we have attention deficit disorder so i am worried this will fade away like other important issues that end up on the hills supposedly, under investigation. >>neil: but there are a number of folks who think if the administration were to push miss rice forward for secretary of state, it would be inviting acrimony but it would come at an enormous cost. do you grow? >>guest: i do, but what we are seeing is a weird school yard battle. the fact that senators john mccain and graham confronted the president and the president came out and publicly defended we ambassador rice, now you are getting in this weird shoving match where, perhaps, the president feels, as a matter of pride, he will put her forward. she is very smart person, very experienced individual, and the misstep on benghazi, on going out on the public and the sunday morning talk shows five days after the fact and claiming she narrative of the video and the spontaneous protests, she relied purely on the intelligence talking points defies belief so that part needs to be
. >> we know that the only way we can solve our long-term debt and deficit problem is to fix the unsustainable growth rates of our very popular entitlement programs. the president has from time to time indicated an openness to that. now is the time to actually do it. >> 42 business groups sent a letter to leaders of congress asking them to do tax reform to lower tax rates and also address entitlement reforms. >> shepard: democrats say they want more revenue, more taxes here. what about entitlement changes? >> well, any time you start talking about tweaking these programs, there are groups in washington around the country that mobilize to try and stop cuts. the number two senate democrat, dick durbin, says he'd be open to look at entitlements, but not part of the fiscal cliff talks. here is the senate majority leader's view. >> at the meeting we had that i mentioned with president and the four leaders, president obama said that social security is not part of what is what we're going to do in this. i agree with him. and there are things that i personally believe there are thing
down our deficits, to streamline our tax system, to do it in a balanced way. including asking the wealthiest americans to pay a little more. >>reporter: the president said he would be willing to have a framework in the short-term for spending cuts neck year but republicans likes speaker boehner are saying if you split all this up and only do the tax side and wait on the spend cuts until next year republicans are skeptical the spending cuts will ever actually materialize. this is all very critical because earlier today, erskine bowles, a budget expert who has become an influential figure, said he thinks that there is a two out of three chance that we are going to fall off the fiscal cliff it is a high probability. >>neil: gephardt think it is a possibility to kick the can down for three, six months, and let all of the cuts, delay the cuts, and delaney dressing on the rates for at least that long. how likely is that? >>reporter: it is something that the republicans would like to see so maybe they can fight this out more. but the bottom line is, the president seems dug in from wh
deficits it, to streamline our tax system. to do it in a balanced way. including asking the wealthiest americans to pay a little more. >> the problem with that strategy is that republic leaders are insisting that they don't want to take a framework for spending cuts down the road in exchange for tax changes now. they want it all done at the same time so that they can be sure that if taxes are going up on the rich, that in fact some of those spending cuts to bring down the debt will actually materialize. it might make it more likely to go of 00 cliff even though the president insisted today he thinks there will be a deal within weeks, shep. >> shepard: as for extending tax cuts for middle class americans it sounds like there is some agreement on that matter. >> it sounds like some republicans rank and file republicans are starting to turn away a little bit from speaker john boehner. tom coal rank and file member. is he part of the leadership but from oklahoma and basically said today extend them for the large majority for the middle class and come back and fight it out in january instea
does not address the debt problem. we don't know how much we address the deficit problem by closing loopholes. impasse. martha: we'll see where that goes. stuart, thanks very much. we'll talk to chris van hollen moments away. bob,er is also here today. we'll get to some of that with them. thanks, stuart. bill: some context from how far the revenue ending bush tax cuts would go. during the 2012 fiscal year it costs $9.7 billion a day to run the federal government. the additional revenue stopping bush tax cuts would bring in $82.4 billion. a number that would run the government for 8 1/2 days. senator corker says there is plan on the table for two years. martha: that grand bargain that was so close. we'll see where that is in terms of both sides. bill:. we're just getting started on this tuesday morning. how about this story? oh, my gosh, a toddler seconds away from almost certain death in this video as a car comes barreling around that bend. we'll show you what the rest of what happens here and we'll tell you what ended up happening. bill: there is new violence on the streets of key
? >> illinois has the worst budget deficit in the nation and why is the state spending millions of taxpayer dollars on table for prisoners. >> and eco friendly zip lines, maybe they want them to watch "fox & friends" in prison, have you ever thought of that. >> dave: amen, there's some viewers, baby. >> clayton: "fox & friends" begins right now. ♪ . >> alisyn:. >> alisyn: good morning, everybody, thanks for joining us bright and early on this sunday morning, we have quite a show for you, including the ongoing debate that dave briggs launched yesterday about yoga pants and we invite you to weigh in this morning. >> clayton: you're still leading this fight and championing this fight. >> alisyn: he's made it a platform. >> dave: i may run for the white house based on yoga pants. there's both good and bad and we will delve into this later on and look, common ground. it's unlike politics, there is some common ground between the two extremes. >> clayton: of yoga pants afficianados. >> alisyn: they're bipartisan. >> clayton: send us a picture of your yoga pants and dave can critique it. >> dave:
international and irskin bowles are amongst those scheduled to attend. half the bowls simpson deficit planned and laid out own formula to save $2 trillion. it is clear republicans like his ideas which would generate $800 billion in revenue through tax reform. meanwhile so much tax reform about allowing the bush tax cuts to allow the wealthy tox expire cost $9.69 billion a day to run. estimated additional revenue from allowing the bush tax cuts to expire would generate an average of $82.4 billion a year. so the money saved would run the government for 8 and a half days, shep. >> shepard: mike emanuel live in our newsroom. warning from the white house tonight. it says americans who may do less holiday shopping this year because they are worried about possible tax hikes in january. if we do go off the cliff, the white house is predicting more serious consequences for the entire economy. a lot of details here and they are coming up inside fox report. well, just hours remain in what is expected to be the biggest online shopping day ever. the research firm core score predicts americans will spend $
, is hurting our own federal deficit. so i think scott walker is someone who can say, look, i've done this, it was not easy, and i succeeded. as far as democrats are concerned, it's really a far less wide-open race, i think, than with republicans, simply because you have this hillary clinton decision out there, whether she does or doesn't. if she doesn't, i think you might have some democrats saying, you know, we won with the senator the last timing, but that's really, really unusual. governors are good. and martin o'malley of maryland, brian schweitzer of montana are two possibilities. >> greta: i think governor o'malley, a big choice, obviously someone people have their eyes on, but also cory booker, a mayor on the democratic side from newark, new jersey. we'll see a lot of corey booker. on the republican side, a woman, governor, suzanna martinez from the state of new mexico. i think she's someone to keep our eye on, because i think her speech at the republican national convention was one that wowed somebody. >> open races on both sides, which makes it fun. >> or joe biden. >> greta: tha
billion a year and would pay ian volving credit but it doesn't touch our deficit or balance our budget and the other thing that is important they have to get something in return. we'll put it up on the clinton rates and not touch medicare or medicaid? it is all part of the deal. >> gretchen: once you get people back to the table. it is it like a marriage, marriages don't work when one party said i will not budge on anything. >> brian: i hope my wife is listening. >> steve: we are in the let's make a deal stage. both sides want to appear flexibility when it comes to doing something. we aapparently the president of the united states. the week after thanksgiving nothing is scheduled. but we understand that the top aides are working together to do something. who is leading the charge for the white house? tim geithner. it is interesting, in the beginning, during the confirmation it was revealed he did not file taxes properly and people say is he qualified to be the treasury of the secretary. according to the wall street journal. they work with him and like him. and jack lu who did it last t
president obama was first elected he talked about how to bring down the deficit and campaign promise to cut it in half and he would do it by focusing on entitlement reform. >> steve: there is the national debt right now. >> gretchen: why doesn't he bring the people to the table and say dick dishin. let's put it all on the table and let's talk about them instead of going out on air force one and getting people to use twitter >> chris: the american society of pensional they have a warning called. if congress does change yourr tax rate, there is a possibility that you might have big changes to your 401 k. last time congress made changes in congress. 70 percent of the 401 k contributions droppped and the worry is people will stop putting in and we'll stop save that is never good. >> brian: we are not supposed to be able to tax that. and we'll be able to get it out when we are 81 years old. and the other stories making news. brand new video out of syria show rebels shooting down a military helicopter. you can hear them chanting allah is great. and the chopper plunges to the ground and first time
, but the post says, quote, there are a lot of ways that deficit reduction cuts could reduce spending on obama kay. so -- obamacare. so is that where this is headed, what they describe as small tweaks acceptable to both sides? they wouldn't dismantle the law, but they would decrease it? >> i think there's a real chance that democrats will agree to scale back some of the subsidies to insurance on the exchanges. they're going to have to face a real tough choice; do you want to scale back spending on programs that people have been on for decades like social security and medicare, or do you want to scale back the projected spending on a program no one's gotten a check from yet? i think we'll see republicans and democrats agree to reduce the spending in the affordable care act, and there's real opportunity to. people who are going to be making $70,000, more than the median family income in the united states, are eligible for subsidies under the law. it's just too generous to be afforded. patti ann: there's an article in "forbes," very interesting, that says that these health exchanges as liberals h
biggest deficit. we need to react on the facts and then that's what should be done. >> eric: ford tseems to some, miss rice has a lack of trust, though she said she relied solely on the intelligence. she said she made it clear that what she was sayinged about the muslim video was preliminary. >> again, blaming the intel is a copout. i think she needs to get the count opportunity to explain herself. she needs to take accountability of her actions. it cements to be clear, nobody knows for sure, she allowed herself to be a pawn for the administration. if you are going to be the nation's top diplomat, have you to show some independence. yes, have you to have loyalty to the administration. but your responsibility's to the american people. i agree here, the bottom line, we have four dead americans and no answers. we need to get to the bottom of this in a bipartisan way. >> eric: when you use the word "pawn," you say you are part of the administration, you are saying that the administration's lying come and they say it's true. is that a fair characterization? >> why didn't they send secretary p
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